November 20th, 2009
Friday’s headlines
By Katia Snukal // 6 Comments
TTC SHUTDOWN
• City, Enbridge probe TTC shutdown [ Toronto Star ]
• TTC says it's not to blame as mishap strands thousands [ National Post ]
• We won't pay, TTC says [ Toronto Sun ]
• Officials probe cause of Toronto subway shutdown [ Globe & Mail ]
• Why weren't TTC riders alerted to shutdown? [ Toronto Star ]
• Forget about a refund, says TTC chair [ Toronto Star ]
• Enbridge Gas and city dispute chain of events [ Toronto Star ]
• Hume: Inadequate TTC spinning its wheels [ Toronto Star ]
• City blames contractor for subway shutdown [ Globe & Mail ]
• City requested work over subway, Enbridge says [ National Post ]
OTHER NEWS
• Podcast: Commuter chaos, Carlton closing, City Hall memories
• Councillor flies on our tab [ Toronto Sun ]
• T.O. to host '12 wrestle fest? [ Toronto Sun ]
• Call for new bike lane penalties [ Toronto Sun ]
• Canada lags in solving youth homelessness: report [ Globe & Mail ]
• Setting the (political) table [ Globe & Mail ]
• How we won the Pan Ams [ National Post ]
• Outdoor amusement reaches new heights [ Toronto Star ]
• Food carts a political hot potato [ Toronto Star ]
• Fury as trees felled at Dunlap observatory site [ Toronto Star ]
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Mark: Re comment about TTC's participation regarding OneCall.
I'm no fan of the TTC Chair and I agree with your comments about having someone with more expertise handling more technical matters on this story. That said, are you sure that TTC is not participating in the OneCall program? That really doesn't sound right (as in possible). If participation by agencies such as the TTC is voluntary, I'd say that it's not just the TTC at fault but whoever is responsible for administering the program, which I assume is the province.
You missed an article about Saving the Downsview Hangar in today's paper for your daily headline:
http://v1.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/GAM.20091120.HANGAR20ART2311/TPStory/TPComment
@samg - it was mentioned in a couple of articles this morning (such as this one)and onecall does not list them as a member on their website.
One Call is an organization of the utilities that don't want their pipes and cables cut. Toronto Water would be a member but not TTC. That said, someone messed up big time. I'ved worked on 3 jobs over and in the Tunnel at Jackes and you can feel the Subway shake your toes with every Car passing under. Typically having experienced the situation TTC will blame everyone other than themselves until the Cows come home.
What does it take for a provincial or federal funding deal to materialize for the TTC? A tunnel collapsing killing hundreds?
From "we won't pay"
"The TTC and by definition the riders, shouldn't be paying for this," Giambrone said. "It is very clear that the TTC is not at fault and everyone knows that the Yonge subway runs under Yonge St."
Oh dear god.
Um, Mr. Commission Chair Sir - the Yonge subway doesn't run under Yonge Street in that area. If it did, the contractor (who didn't cut into *Yonge* Street) wouldn't have impacted the tunnel.
While the TTC might not be "at fault" in that they did not order the work to be done, had they signed up to Ontario One Call the contractor would likely have known exactly what was under the road.
Next time TTC has a SNAFU could the councillors please step back and the operations guys please step forward?
Comment by Mark Dowling
November 20, 2009 | 12:01 pm